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Atenveldt LoI dated 2017-01-26


Letter of Intent

25 January 2017


Unto Andrewe Laurel; Alys Pelican; Brunissende Wreath; and the commenting Members of the College of Arms,

Greetings of the Newish Year from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

The Atenveldt College of Heralds requests the consideration and registration of the following names and armory with the College of Arms.

Unless specifically stated, the client will accept any spelling and grammar corrections; all assistance is appreciated.

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

1: Ælfgyfe Æthelwulfesdohtor - Resub Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language (9th-11th C. Anglo-Saxon) most important.
Culture (9th-11th C. Anglo-Saxon) most important.
Spelling most important.

Ths previous name change submission (from Michelle of Twin Moons, October 2016) was returned because there was no name form provided.

Ælfgyfe is a female Anglo-Saxon given name dated to 1018 and found in "Anglo-Saxon Women's Names from Royal Charters," Marieke van de Dal ( ffride wlffsdotter had previously commented that "I would be surprised if the nominative form wasn't Old English Ælfgyfu. Sawyer 1229 begins "Ic Ælfgyfu..." [I, Ælfgyfu] ( And while -u is a strong, feminine nominative noun ending, -e is used for feminine nouns in the accusative, dative and genitive cases. (If we assume Ælfgyfe is a nominative, weak feminine noun, you'd expect to see Ælfgifan popping up in other cases, but you don't.)"

The PASE data base shows many examples of Æthelwulf as a male given name, The suffix forms a patronymic from it.

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

2: Ambrose the Gutless - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2016, via Atenveldt.

Sable, a hand argent between in chief two bees, a bordure Or.

The original device submission, Sable, a hand argent between in chief two bees Or. was returned for presumption with the arms of Isengard: Sable, a hand argent. "The hand appears to be a primary charge as it crosses the fess line. Thus there is only one DC for adding the secondary charges in chief. Drawn properly as coprimary charges, with two bees Or and a hand argent of similar visual weight (with the hand staying below the fess line), the present presumption issue would not exist."

Adding a bordure Or appears to give the second DC needed to avoid conflict and presumption with Isengard.

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

3: Devorix Tiberius Catumaros - New Name & New Device

Gules, in pale a lion's head caboshed and a lozenge Or charged with saltire sable and winged Or, an orle Or.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

The name was inspired by the client's gladiatorial persona. While he wanted to include something that suggested a Roman connection (the Tiberius element, the tripartite name), he is willing to move away from this, dropping the Tiberius, since neither of us are sure if the Gauls would adopt a Roman name element or how it would be used. [Tiberius appears only as a praenomen (first element) in classic Roman names.] To quote the client, "Tiberus was to indicate the roman part and Catumaros just had a nice ring. I am up for changing the Nomen + Cognomen if needs be or even remove them and get away from Praenomen + Nomen + Cognomen function."

Moving beyond that: In correspondence with the client, he is most concerned that Devorix is maintained. ffride wlffsdotter helps immensely with "I can find the Celto-Iberian name Deivorix, however it is 3rd-1st century BCE, according to Encyclopédie de l'Arbre Celtique (" The entry reads (in French, of course) Deivorix - Nom de personne apparaissant sur une plaque de bronze inscrite en alphabet celtibère découverte à Luzaga (Espagne). ) (Teuoreikis->Devoreigis->Deivorix). Ce nom est un composé celtibère en *deivo-reigis, équivalent au gaulois *devo-rix, signifiant : "le roi divin", "le roi céleste".

ffride also finds that "In this book review, p. 3 of the PDF it says:

"In pages 24-64 Freeman prints `a conservative list of Galatian personal names'.... [with] a few references to medieval insular Celtic parallels (Κατόµαροc, Gaulish Catumaros, Welsh Catmor, p. 36)" and in "Ubi Erat Lupa, a catalogue of Roman-era inscriptions has: <Lucius Sempronius Catumarus>, Hungary. Ca. 90-120 CE."

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

4: François Barbe-d'Or - New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister gules and argent, a Paschal lamb passant regardant proper and a cross formy gules.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (French) most important.
Culture most important.

François is a French male given name found in "Names from Artois, 1601," Aryanhwy merch Catmael,

Barbe-d'Or is a locative byname found in "Inn Signs and House Names in 15th Century Paris," Juliana de Luna,

Although he will not accept Major changes to the name, he will accept having the French "c" in his name.

The Paschal lamb registered by Galen of Bristol in March 2013 was blazoned simply as "argent," although the cross on its banner is gules. Isabel de Annesley's Pashal lamb, registered June 2014, is blazoned as argent, although the cross on its banner is gules and the halo is Or. Alisoun MacCoul notes in commentary for Isabel's submission, "While the lamb is haloed Or and its banner is the standard argent and gules ensign of Saint George, of late we have been omitting such details from blazon. . ." I'm using the blazon as it was submitted.

In-kingdom commentary suggested that that banner might be drawn larger, but this wasn't a real problem.

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

5: Kaylea of Atenveldt - New Name & New Device

Argent, a chevron enarched within and conjoined at the point to a chevron between two butterflies purpure and a tulip gules slipped and leaved vert.

Kaylea is the client's legal given name (photocopy of her DMV driver's license provided to Laurel).

Atenveldt is the client's kingdom of residence; the branch-name was registered "at some point," according to the A&O. SENA PN.1. Allows Branch Names to be used as an element of a client's name submission.

An example of this chevron is seen in the registered armory of Hákon Þorgeirsson: Azure, a chevron enarched within and conjoined at the point to a chevron argent between a drakkar and a Thor's hammer Or.

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

6: Sewenna de Carlton - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language most important.
Spelling most important.

Sewenna is an English feminine given name dated to 1231 in "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames: Sewen," Talan Gwynek,

de Carleton (with an -e-) is dated to 1031, 1240-1, and 1379; it is a locative, "from Carlton" (in Bedfordeshire, Cambridgeshire, and others) or "from Carleton" (Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, s.n. Carlton, Carleton, p. 84).

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

7: Sólveig Æsadóttir - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Old Norse, 600-800 AD.
Sound most important.
Language (Old Norse) most important.
Culture (600-800 AD) most important.

The name is Old Norse. Both Sólveig and Æsa are feminine names found in "Viking Names found in Landnámabók," Aryanhwy merch Catmael,

Metronymics are not commonly seen, but it appears that a name ending in -a would change to -u in the formation of a patronymic or metronymic, as seen in "A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names," Aryanhwy merch Catmael,; hence, it may be more correct as Æsudóttir.

The client desires a female name and is most interested in the sound and language/culture of the name. She wishes it to be authentic for language/culture (ON), and time period (600-800 AD).

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

8: Una Ǫlfúss - New Name & New Device

Or, a domestic cat statant erect gules maintaining a sword sable, a chief embattled gules.

The name is Old Norse. Una is a feminine given name in "The Old Norse Name," Geirr Bassi Haraldsson, p. 15.

The byname Ǫlfúss means "desirous of beer," in "Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók," Aryanhwy merch Catmael,

This item was on the 04-2017 LoAR

9: Viktoria of York - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2012, via Atenveldt.

Per saltire argent and purpure, in pale two crosses and in fess two dragonflies counterchanged.

The original submission, Per saltire purpure and argent, a dragonfly and a rose argent barbed vert seeded gules.,was returned "returned for presumption, for combining the byname of York with armory containing a white rose. This is a violation of section XI.2 of the Rules for Submissions, and section A6E of the Standards for Evaluation, both of which discuss disallowed charge and name combinations." The rose has been eliminated here. Her first resubmission design, Quarterly purpure and argent, in bend two dragonflies and in bend sinister two crosses counterchanged., was assuredly marshalling, and we hope that rotating the field 45 degrees is an acceptable alternative.

I was assisted in the preparation of this Letter of Intent with commentary provided by ffride wlffsdotter, Michael Gerard Curtememoire and Thomas de Groet.

Thank you to those who have provided your wisdom and patience, your expertise and your willingness to share it.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street; Tucson AZ 85716

OSCAR counts 6 New Names and 4 New Devices. These 10 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $40 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Name and 2 Resub Devices. These 3 items are not chargeable. There are a total of 13 items submitted on this letter.

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