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Caid LoI dated 2016-11-30

Unto Andrewe Laurel, Brunissende Wreath, Alys Pelican, and the College of Arms entire does Estrith Dolphin and the Caid College of Heralds, send greetings and salutations.

We humbly request your consideration of the following submissions from our November 13th meeting.

Here's hoping you all have a wonderful start to the holiday season.

1: Brian of Garfield - New Name

All name elements are found in familysearch.

Brian Hardy Spouse Isabell Bridghouse 25 Jun 1548 Halifax, York, England M00749-1

Annis Garfield marriage William Fretter Spouse Annis Garfield 02 Sep 1598 Church Lawford,Warwick,England M04366-1

Garford, Garforth, and Gargrave are all found in Mills with Gar as a triangular piece of land, so Garfield seems a reasonable constructed locative.

Note: His legal name is Brian Scott Garfield, which is why "of" is imperative.

2: Bruce MacDonald - New Name & New Device

Per pale sable and vert, on a chief argent a wolf courant to sinister sable

no boxes marked

From OSCAR July 2016 2: Bruce le Hulke

Bruce is a saint's name. The Middle English Dictionary s.v. lūt(e) (n.(1) dates the following quote to 1445: "For þis holy daunce, mynstralcy ys goode: Now, Seynt Bruce! helpe with þy sounded lute."

Bruce is also found on family search Bruce Skott, buried 1591, Lincoln, batch B02594-3

MacDonald: is found in Family Search Historical Records: Margaret Mcdonald, female, christened3 Jun 1613 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, #C11999-1

Mcdonald is a scribal abbreviation of MacDonald

This name is not a conflict with Elizabeth Bruce MacDonald, which was changed and released in August of 1990.

We believe this device is clear of Donovan Schinnock, March 2008, Per pale sable and vert, on a chief argent a wolf passant gules, with one DC for color of the wolf and another for orientation.

3: Eibhlin an Ucaire - Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2011, via Caid.

(Fieldless) A sword inverted proper between and maintained by two dragons combatant sable and gules

from Dec 2015 LoAR

Eibhlin an Ucaire. Badge. (Fieldless) A sword inverted proper between and grasped by two dragons combatant sable and gules.

This badge is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." Many commenters had trouble identifying the dragons and perceived the design as a bat winged sword.

This redraw addresses the return

4: Hette Vitze - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 2012, via Caid.

(Fieldless) A fireball saltirewise purpure enflamed proper, overall in cross four furisons conjoined flats to center

The submitter has registered both: (Fieldless) A fireball saltirewise purpure enflamed proper, and (Fieldless) In cross four furisons conjoined, flats to center argent.

We do not know if there is a precedent or period evidence for an overall charge to not be a single charge, but rather multiple conjoined charges. Although there was some concern about the identifiability of the charges, and the amount of 'overall-ness' we are sending this up for a determination.

5: Isela of Silvercreek - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Caid LoI of October 31, 2016 as submitted.

Lozengy purpure and Or, a brown rabbit proper and a rabbit argent combattant

While not the typical verbage, we believe this blazon is more clear.

6: Joshua of Calafia - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Caid LoI of September 25, 2016 as submitted.

Vert, a wolf rampant Or and a bordure embattled argent

7: Michael de Connacht - New Name & New Device

Argent, a chevron between three escallops inverted sable and a bordure per fess gules and sable

no boxes marked submitter allows the change of de to other adjective if required to register

Michael is found as an English masculine given name in Withycombe dated from 1196.

de Connacht is an anglicized Irish locative byname Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (Kathleen M. O'Brien)© 2000-2010 by Kathleen M. O'Brien. Version 2.2, updated 07 April 2010


The people who appear in these records come from several different cultures.

Many are of Gaelic descent, though it is impossible to tell for certain which spoke English as their primary (or only) language and which spoke Irish Gaelic as their primary (or only) language.

Others are descended from Anglo-Norman families who arrived in the late 12th century or soon thereafter. By the 16th century, these families had evolved into a culture that was not Gaelic but also was not English. Some of this phenomenon was due to simple cultural interaction that they had with both Irish Gaels and with the English. However, a good bit of the creation of the formation of this separate culture was due to intentional influence by England in many forms including, but not limited to, the Statutes of Kilkenny. That descendants of these families were viewed as "not English" by natives of England can be seen in Campion (c. 1571), pp. 5 - 8, which includes such colorful descriptions as:

Lord Bermingham, Baron of Athenrye, now degenerate and become meere Irish, against whome his auncestors served valiantly in An. 1300.

Mac Suretan Lord Deseret, whom Sir Henry Sidney called Iordan de Exeter. This was Lord in the time of Lionell Duke of Clarence, An. 1361. now very wilde Irish.

Mac William Burcke, Lord of eighter Connacht, now very Irish.

Seintleger, Baronet of Slemarge, meere Irish.

Den, Baronet of Por man ston, waxing Irish.

We are requesting help with documentation for this name if the provided is not sufficient.

The escallops would be more identifiable with white detailing on the color emblazon, the lines are clearly visible on the black and white version.

8: Randulf Greenwall - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in May of 2014, via Atenveldt.

Old Item: Randolph Greenwall, to be released.

Randulf is an English masculine given name found in FamilySearch Historical Records, including:

Randulf Nicholson, chr. 18 Sept 1597, London, England; Batch C02241-2

Randulf Warde, chr. 14 Jan 1577, Leicester, England; Batch C03699-2

Greenwall is an English surname found in FamilySearch Historical Records, including:

Nichollas Greenwall, married 12 Oct 1628, Cornwall, England; Batch M00213-3

Greenwall is also grandfathered to the submitter.

9: Sigarr bassi - New Name

Sigarr is found in Geir bassi pg 14 with 1 example as a given name.

bassi is listed as a nickname also in Gb on pg 19 meaning great bear-like person.

While this is technically clear of Geirr Bassi, there was discussion about the similarity (and the evocative).

10: Tryggr járngeirr Ingvarsson - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2012, via Caid.

Quarterly vert and gules, a pike embowed counterchanged per pale Or and argent, in base two spears in chevron inverted Or, bladed argent

We are not sure about the unity of posture issue, but are sending this up pending clarification.

11: Wilim Stokesay - New Name & New Device

Or, on a chevron cotised between three ravens sable two plates

If the 'e' needs to be dropped to register Stokesay the submitter is ok with the change.

Wilim Burrey Spouse Janne Younge 20 Sep 1579 Saint argaret,Westminster, London, England M00160-1

Stokesay is the header spelling in Ekwall pg 446. Dated spellings include Stoksay 1256. The manor was held by Hugh de Sei in 1195. Originally Stoke. Adding the e is a plausible spelling for a later period.

12: Zosime Pompeiana - New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 2013, via Caid.

Per pale vert and sable, an amphora and on a chief argent and arrow reversed sable

Old Item: Sable, a water bouget Or within a bordure embattled argent, to be retained as a badge.

Thank you


OSCAR counts 5 New Names, 1 New Name Change, 6 New Devices, 1 New Device Change and 1 New Badge. These 14 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $56 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Badge. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 15 items submitted on this letter.

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