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Middle LoI dated 2016-10-29

Unto Andrewe Laurel, Lillia Pelican, Brunissende Wreath, and the rest of the College of Arms, does Sybella of Dragon's Mark, Rouge Scarpe Herald, send greetings.

his is the Middle Kingdom Letter of Acceptance and Returns for the items on the September 26, 2016 ILoI, which can be found here: https://oscar.sca.org/kingdom/kingloi.php?kingdom=4&loi=4069

My sincerest thanks to Konrad Mailander, Ursula Georges, Dai Gerdwr, Daniel the Broc, Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha, Michael Gerard Curtememoire, Etienne Le Mons, Rosamond Playfayre, Eleanora Stewart, Katherine Coscombe, Coblaith Muimnech, ffride wlffsdotter, Maridonna Benvenuti, Tala al-Zahra and Jean Yves de Chierebourg for their commentary.

It is the intent of the College of Heralds of the Middle to register the following items. Unless otherwise noted, the submitter has no desire for authenticity and allows any changes.

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1: Áine ingen Barddáin - New Alternate Name

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Katty of Cheshire

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Katty is dated to 1513 s.n. Katherine in "Early 16c Scottish Lowland Names" by Effrick neyn Kenyeoch vc Ralte http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/lowland16/

of Cheshire - locative byname referencing English County in north-west England on the border with Wales. Spelling "Richard de Cestersir" dated to 1219 in R&W. Construction according to Appendix A [Given + Byname]

In Commentary:

Ursula Georges--

The Cynnabar heralds checked this name for style, documentation, and possible conflicts. Clear of Cathryn of Chester by SENA PN3.C.1 because two syllables (one in the given name, one in the byname) have changed. Everything looks good.


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2: Alric of The Mists - New Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Alric of the Mists in October of 2002, via Æthelmearc.

Per bend sinister purpure and sable, a pear within a bordure embattled Or

Correction to Badge (2016-Dec-02 09:12:31): Name should be Alaric of the Mists. The capital T in the was a typo.


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3: Ann Marie Morgane - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound (English) most important.

Ann Family Search Record: Mary Ann Baestone; Burial Date 02 Apr 1577; Batch B02734-3; Film 1450400; https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC95-147. It's also dated to 1573 and 1578 in Talan Gwynek's "Feminine Given Names in <i>A Dictionary of English Surnames</i>"

Marie is a French name, but found in England for example in "Names of Aliens in London, 1593: Women from France" by Sara L. Uckelman (Aryanhwy merch Catmael) (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/aliens/1593frenchfem.html).

Morgane - Reaney and Wilson s.n. Morgan date "John Morgane" to 1419.


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4: Argus Mac Gregour of Cleftlands - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (Argus is the important element. Submitter also wants the sound of Gregor.) most important.

Argus is a 16th century English surname, which can be used as a given name by precedent. [Alton of Grimfells, 4/2010 LoAR, A-East]. ISABEL ARGUS Female Christening 17 December 1592 Ryton, Durham, England JOHN ARGUS Batch: P000841 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7SK-VFG) JASPER ARGUS Male Christening 17 December 1592 Ryton, Durham, England JOHN ARGUS Batch: P000841 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBQ2-2QR)

Black (s. n. MacGregor) also notes M'Gregur dated to 1600, McGrigour dated to 1586 and mc gregoure dated to the act of abolition of 1603. Mac Gregour is a plausible interpolation.

The mixing of an English given name and a Scottish byname is a permitted mixing per SENA Appendix C.

If this name is found to conflict with the registered Angus MacGregor (May of 1992 via Ansteorra), the submitter permits addition of branch name designator "of Cleftlands".

In Commentary was the following discussion:

(Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha)--

Docs are good, however, I believe the name conflicts. Adding in 'of Cleftlands' should clear the conflict.

(Ursula Georges Palimpsest)--

The Cynnabar heralds agree that there is a probable conflict, and the byname should be added.

(Michael Gerard Curtememoire)--

There would be a clear conflict between <Argus Mac Gregour> and <Angus MacGregor> if SENA PN3.C.1 and 2 applied precisely as written,

requiring both sound and appearance under each. However, the second paragraph of the first section of PN3.C, "Standards for Identity Conflict", states

Names may be different in sound under one standard and appearance under another standard.

The names qualify as different in appearance under PN3.C.1, "Changes to Two Syllables", because the spelling of -r- vs. -n- and -u- vs. 0

occur in two different syllables. Although a change in spacing theoretically also counts, it would have to somehow affect a syllable, and

the space here falls between syllables.

Although the -u- does not cause a reliable pronunciation difference, the names nevertheless qualify as different in sound under PN3.C.2,

"Substantial Change to One Syllable". The vowels and the corresponding consonant clusters following them are completely different between Ar- and An-.

(Ursula Georges Palimpsest)--

The question is whether the vowels in Ar- and An- are really different. They certainly are in my dialect of English (one rhymes with bar,

one rhymes with brain), but SENA notes that we consider "important period and modern pronunciations", and I'm not sure what would happen

with medieval Scots and English accents. Looks like the modern Scots pronunciation of Angus has the same first vowel as US English Cat?

(Michael Gerard Curtememoire)--

By Early Modern English, which is what we're documenting for, not Middle English, /æ/ existed in the same places it does today.

At http://www.pronouncekiwi.com/Angus,%20Scotland (which apparently is pronouncing a town), none of the UK pronunciations have anything like /ɒ/ or /a/.

Neither do those at https://www.howtopronounce.com/angus/. So it's very likely the vowels were as different as they now are.

(Michael Gerard Curtememoire)--

We don't take account of personas, and even if Argus were guaranteed Early Modern English, nothing guarantees that Angus isn't Middle English, at least some of the time. Or has ME-speaking colleagues.

Which means we have to compare /ar/ and /an/, which leaves us without one of the necessary legs.

Conflict after all.

(Ursula Georges Palimpsest)--

Nice breakdown of the possibilities!

My sense is that which pronunciations are important here is ultimately a call for Pelican, though I personally lean toward calling a conflict.


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5: Ascelina de Tanet - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via the Middle.

Per pale wavy argent and purpure, a dragon and a wolf passant respectant counterchanged and a point sable (sides of point are straight, per submitter's request)


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6: Avice Grenefeld - New Name & New Device

Argent, on a bend vert between a raven contourny and a tower sable six roundels argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Marked Language/Culture but did not specify..

Avice- Talan's "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/reaneyAG.html), dated to 1275, 1279, 1296 , 1311 and 1327

Grenefeld- Family Search, Isabella Grenefeld, christening,Female, 22 Dec 1566, Hailfax, York, England, P00749-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGYQ-F84)

Name Comments:

Ursula Georges (Palimpsest) at 2016-10-03 20:14:32

The correct link for the given name is http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyAG.html .

Blazon orgininally submitted as: Argent, on a bend vert, six roundels argent between a raven sinster and a tower sable.


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7: Barony of Illiton - New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

(Fieldless) On a tower sable masoned argent, a fountain.

Blazon originally submitted as: (Fieldless) On a tower sable, a fountain.

Listed on the forms as being submitted by John Inchingham. John was the Baron-elect for Illiton at the time of Pennsic. Since he was not yet Baron he could not submit these in the Barony's name. He was invested August 27th, 2016 and requested that the badges be submitted under the Barony's name.


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8: Barony of Illiton - New Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Barry wavy argent and azure, a salmon contourney gules.

Listed on the forms as being submitted by John Inchingham. John was the Baron-elect for Illiton at the time of Pennsic. Since he was not yet Baron he could not submit these in the Barony's name. He was invested August 27th, 2016 and requested that the badges be submitted under the Barony's name.

In Commentary Etienne Le Mons--

While salmon are native to European areas in period (notably Lake Onega), this depiction has none of the identifying features of a salmon to distinguish it from another fish. The head isn't the right shape and neither are the fins or the tail.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Salmo_salar_%28crop%29.jpg


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9: Berenger of the Five Lakes - New Name & New Device

Device forwarded to Laurel as: Per pale gules and azure, an eagle maintaining in its talons a lance fesswise Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.

Berenger: Talan Gwynek, "Men's Given Names from Early 13th Century England" (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/eng13/eng13m.html)

of the Five Lakes: Sena Appendix A says that the locative pattern 'Of X' is correct for Middle/Early Modern English. The pattern of number+locative element is found occasionally Ekwall, s.n. Sevenoaks dates Sevenak to 1218 and Seuenok to 1230. Ekwall cites both Seofenwyllas and syfan wyllan as locatives documented to the Old English period with the meaning 'Seven Wells' (s.n. Sevenhampton). There are other period locatives which include numerals, e.g. Fourstanys from 1236 and Fourestanes from 1256 with the meaning 'four stones' (Ekwall, s.n. Fourstones). We believe this to be equivalent. In the March 2010 LoAR forÆthelmearc Precedent, [Erik of the three streams], "Ensign found that 'Watts, CDEP-N, p. 613a, offers 'le three bridges' dated to 1613 under 'THREE BRIDGES.'' As Watts is a place name dictionary, this citation supports of the three streams, though of Threestreams would be amuch more common form. We have changed the name to Erik of the three streams to match the pattern found by Ensign, in order to register this name."

The submitter specifically permits the College to drop "the" from the name.

In Commentary from Ursula Georges (Palimpsest)--

Need documentation for the element <Lakes>. Fortunately, documentation for <Lake> in place names is not hard to come by. The Middle English Dictionary s.v. lāk(e (n.(1)) has multiple examples of <-lake>, including <Blakelake> in 1277, <Fernelake> in 1341, and <Stanelake> in 1360.

Blazon submitted as: Per pale gules and azure, an eagle displayed maintaining within its talons a lance Or

In Commentary:

Michael Gerard Curtememoire--

Apparently it is acceptable for the eagle's wings to be parallel to the top edge of the device. The images below show registered devices for, respectively, Lochlainn Lost from http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=28940, Morien MacBain from http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=14479, and Hauoc the Wild from http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=12819. I don't think the presence or absence of internal detailing matters in that respect.

Note that "displayed" is routinely deleted by Laurel as being default for eagles. And while the O&A contains about four dozen cases of "in its talons", it has none of "within its talons".

1: Image 1 https://oscar.sca.org/cImages/1706/2016-10-10/12-30-16_LochlainnLost.PNG

2: Image 2 https://oscar.sca.org/cImages/1706/2016-10-10/12-30-17_MorienMacBain.PNG

3: Image 3 https://oscar.sca.org/cImages/1706/2016-10-10/12-30-18_HauoctheWild.PNG

Daniel the Broc--

....it still seems to be the usual to blazon things in both talons explicitly fesswise

Per the June 16 CL:

"This month we considered the question of how we count difference for changes to held charges, in the case of Déirdre inghean Eithne (Meridies). The question was raised of whether the position on the field of the held charge could be counted as a DC. In this case, the bird in the protected device was holding the charge in its beak, while in the submission, the bird was holding the charge in its claw. The way in which the bird holds a charge is considered an artistic detail that does not provide a DC. Similarly, the way in which the bird holds the secondary charge dictates its position and thus the location on the field does not provide a DC either."

Michael Gerard Curtememoire--

So http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2016/06/16-06cl.html#1, "From Wreath: More on Held Charges",


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10: Bjǫrn inn viðfǫrli - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for Norse 9-10th Century.
Meaning (Bjorn the far-travelled) most important.

Bjǫrn is found on page 8 of Gierr Bassi with 42 instances found.

inn viðfǫrli is found on page 29, meaning "far travelled."


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11: Caden MacMichel - New Name & New Device

Per pale azure and vert, a winged narwhal naiant embowed argent between three escallops Or.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (Kay-den for given name) most important.

Caden is a late-period English surname found in the Family Search Historical Records: Will Caden; Male; Christening; 10 Mar 1608; SAINT DAVID, EXETER, DEVON, ENGLAND; Batch: C05091-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NB7N-X2Q)

MacMichel -- McMychel is found in Black s.n. MacMichael dated to 1490. Mc- expands to Mac- for registration. The i/y swap is commonly found in Scots. Thus, the dated cite in Black supports the submitted MacMichel.

In Commentary:

Ursula Georges (Palimpsest)--

No spelling with 'a' will have the pronunciation the submitter wants, because the Great Vowel Shift wasn't completed until after the end of SCA period; <Ka-den> with a short 'a' is a more likely pronunciation. (For some useful Great Vowel Shift examples, see the dialogues here: http://facweb.furman.edu/~mmenzer/gvs/dialogue.htm )

Dai Gerdwr--

I believe "Cei" would have the pronunciation the submitter would like for the first syllable. I am not sure there's any sort of diminutive or variant that would be "Ceiden" or similar.

In Commentary:

Coblaith Muimnech--

I'd anticipate a SENA A.2.C.2 problem with this one (http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A2C2). My first thought was, "That's kind of a lumpy hummingbird."

Etienne Le Mons (Sea Stag)--

This looks like a hummingbird.

Daniel the Broc--

Agreed, this looks like a hummingbird hovering.

Having said that though... it looks like if they -want- this as a hummingbird, this would be clear. A SFPP for use of hovering, but looks clear.


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12: Edgar von Drachenstein - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in July of 2004, via Caid.

Old Item: Edgar Chiswick, to be retained as an alternate name.
No changes.

Edgar - is Grandfathered to the submitter July 2004

<von> The particle "von" is used in locative bynames that refer to specific place-names, for example "von Köln" meaning "of Cologne" [2/2004 LoAR, R-Atlantia]

Drachenstein - Drachenstein is a place-name formed of the elements Drachen, from draa(c)k or drache (MHG) or drach (Upper Germany), meaning "dragon", ibid, pg 85 header Draa(c)k and -stein meaning a "stone." These types of names, with the element Drachen- in them and various endings, are evidenced in the Academy of Saint Gabriel report # 2924. http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2924.txt

In Commentary:

Rosamond Playfayre--

The original source for the Academy of Saint Gabriel report is Brechenmacher, Josef Karlmann, _Etymologisches Woerterbuch der deutschen Familiennamen_ (Limburg a. d. Lahn, C. A. Starke-Verlag, 1957-1960). s.nn. Drachenfels, Drachenhand, Drack, Drackenstein.

The Etymology of German Family Names is not available as an e-book and is listed as unavailable on Amazon.com. Although no page number was provided in the Saint Gabriel report, the comment appears to indicate that Drachenstein was an actual name listed with that spelling in Brechenmacher.


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13: Elena verch Llywelyn - New Name & New Device

Purpure, two otters combatant maintaining between them a trident and in chief three bees Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

Elena is found on "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html).

verch is "daughter" according to the same document.

Llywelyn is a male given name from the same document. It also is her father's persona name. It is common for women's names to be constructed <given name> <relationship word> <relative's given name>

In Commentary:

Michael Gerard Curtememoire--

I find that the jaws of these otters combatant being drawn in the fiercer style regularly found for lions, wolves, and such beasts greatly impairs identifiability. It also makes adding the standard identifying fish inconvenient.

We have registered several otters without the plentiful whiskers characteristic of the natural animal, but I believe adding them here is advisable, perhaps necessary, to make submitter's beasts recognizably otters.

Whiskered otters have been accepted for Count Vladimir Ivanovich Aleksandrov, as emblazoned in the image below from http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=13660, so I don't think a claim of excessive naturalism would hold.

1: Image 1 https://oscar.sca.org/cImages/1706/2016-10-10/13-08-34_VladimirIvanovichAleksandrovAugmented.PNG

Daniel the Broc--

It's a mustalid of some sort. Having the fish in it's mouth would make it more obvious, but I didn't really have a problem seeing that as an otter. Webbed feet and a rounded tail were enough for me. And since there's no type DC given for weasel vs ermine vs otter vs badger anyways....


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14: Genovefa da Terranova - New Name & New Device

Per pale vert and purpure, an open book and on a chief Or two dragonflies purpure.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for Italian.
Spelling most important.

Genovefa: From the Academy of Saint Gabriel report 3009, s.n. Genovefa: "Genovefa bef. 1120" URL: www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?3009+0 This is an article about Norman French names, but client is all right with mixing French and Italian cultures to obtain desired name.

"da" is the usual Italian preposition used to indicate origin from a given city. Terranova is a place name found in Florentine Renaissance Resources: Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532, edited by David Herlihy, R. Burr Litchfield, and Anthony Molho. (http://cds.library.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/ORIGIN.html)

In Commentary from Rosamond Playfayre--

SENA, Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes indicates that medieval Italian and French names can be combined.


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15: Godiva Langevin of the Osprey - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2011, via Meridies.

Azure, in bend two domestic cats rampant contourny erminois within a bordure raguly ermine


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16: Guy d'Avignon - Resub Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Spelling (Guy is most important, byname can change) most important.

Guy - French Names from Paris, 1421, 1423, & 1438 by Aryanhwy merch Catmael http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/paris1423.html 2 occurrences under S.N. Guiot

d'Avignon - DRAFT: Bynames in Medieval France by Sara L. Uckelman http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/frenchbynames.pdf Avignon loc. from Avignon (Jura, Vaucl). Avignon 1292, d'Avignon 1292 Paris.

Original submission returned in Kingdom August 10, 2015 4: Guillelmus de Normandie - New Name

ROUGE SCARPE: Returned for presumption with William I of England. William I of England was known as Guillaume de Normandie; Guillaume le Bâtard; Guillaume le Conquérant; William of Normandy; William the Bastard; William the Conqueror in period.


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17: Harkin of the Moorlands - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Æthelmearc LoI of October 31, 2012 as submitted.

Quarterly sable and vert, a Bowen cross within a serpent contourny in annulo vorant of its tail argent.

Blazon originally submitted as: Quarterly sable and vert, a Bowen cross within a serpent eating its own tail argent.


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18: Hjálmr Njálsson - New Name & New Device

Per fess argent and azure, three valknuts azure and a wolf's head cabossed argent.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Meaning (Son of Njáll) most important.

Hjálmr is found as a Male Given Name in Geirr Bassi p. 11

Njálsson is a patronymic constructed from the Male Given Name <i>Njáll</i> found in Gierr Bassi p 13 Construction according to GeirrBassi p. 17


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19: Leofric of the Osprey - New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Gyronny arrondi of six Or and azure, a ferret rampant argent maintaining in its forepaws a wooden barrel proper.

Blazon submitted as: Gyronny arrondi of six Or and azure, a ferret rampant argent maintaining in its forepaws as if to drink a wooden barrel proper.

In Commentary Etienne Le Mons (Sea Stag)--

The ferret is maintaining the barrel, but not "as if to drink" (unless it's mouth is around the area of its neck).


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20: Leonardo Voltera - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Middle LoI of September 28, 2015 as submitted.

Argent, in pale two katanas inverted in saltire sable and a turtle vert, a bordure azure.

Blazon submitted as: Argent, in pale two katanas inverted in saltire sable and a turtle tergiant vert, a bordure azure.

In Commentary:

Michael Gerard Curtememoire--

Turtles are tergiant palewise by default, http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html#default, so the word could well be omitted.

Daniel the Broc--

What you did there, I see it :) And as much as I love it, I'd call this a UoP issue. http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A3D2c

As drawn I'd call the katana co=primnary with the a turtle, and as blazoned it looks like that was the intent anyways.

This may or may not be obtrusively modern, but that's above my pay-grade. But something for the client to be aware of.

Also, these are blazoned as a tortise. A turtle is a turtle-dove. And SFPP for a Katana.

Michael Gerard Curtememoire--

I don't believe UoP is infringed. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/03/14-03lar.html#31 declares "a pair of charges in saltire is considered a unit for purposes of arrangement and placement upon the field".

As for terminology, in the O&A the charge is blazoned scores of times as simply a turtle or turtles, always with the armory description REPTILE-TURTLE.

Counseling Wreath as I, at least, had to cogitate for a while before I realized that the combination of a turtle and katanas might be considered an allusion to the weaponry of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. But when my Net search discovered that it is Leonardo who uses a katana, and I noted the name of submitter, I went hunting for what precedent considers excessive allusion.

In reference to a divinity, http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1995/01/lar.html declares s.n. Cerridwen Maelwedd that "One allusion to the name is not considered excessive, two allusions may be, three or more is probably right out."

Leonardo wears the blue mask. Considering the bordure azure here for one, the katanas for two, and the turtle for three, I believe we have enough for Dragon to bring explicitly to Wreath's attention--if he does not consider it sufficient for return by him--even not knowing whether submitter currently wears armor resembling a green carapace with a blue stripe across the helm.


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21: Luca de Luca - New Name & New Device

Azure, a falcon belled & jessed stooping to dexter and on a point pointed argent a Latinate cross fleury sable

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity.

Luca, de Luca: Luca is a given name in Juliana de Luna's "Names from 15th and 16th Century Pisa" (from 2015 proceedings). di Luca is documentable from Juliana's "Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: Complete Names from Declarations" (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/condado/completenames.html) Interestingly, the Ordinary lists 3 gentles who have separately registered "de Luca" [sic] as a byname. N.B.: Client most desires culturally-consistent Italian (no particular century), ideally with preferred spellingas above, but will also accept "di Luca" (Latinized spelling) if necessary.

In Commentary:

Rosamond Playfayre--

Confirming Luca appears as a given name in Juliana de Luna's "Names from 15th and 16th Century Pisa" appearing as early as 1457 and as late as 1557. (http://heraldry.sca.org/kwhss/2014/Juliana_de_Luna/Names_from_15th_and_16th_Century_Pisa.pdf)

Confirming Bobi di Luca is listed in Juliana de Luna's "Names...: Complete Names from Declarations" article with the comment: "These names come from declarations that were included in full in Les Toscans et leurs familles and La Legge del Catasto Fiorentino del 1427."

Maridonna Benvenuti--

An online search of the Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532 shows two entries: Luca [di] Luca Carnesecchi who held an office in 1435 & 1456. See image. This website is linked from the MNA at http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/

BR> http://cds.library.brown.edu/projects/tratte/search/personinfo.php?whichSeries=Tre+Maggiori&referred =yes&screen=2&rawquery=SELECT+COM1%2C+NAME1%2C+NAME2%2C+NAME3%2C+NAME4%2C+SURNAM1%2C+OCNAME%2C+YDRA W%2C+SER%2C+OFFICE%2C+RDRAW%2C+RECKEY+FROM+tratte+WHERE+SER+%3D+%2705%27+AND++NAME1+%3D+%27LUCA%27+ AND+NAME2+%3D+%27LUCA%27+AND+SURNAM1+%3D+%27CARNESECCHI%27++ORDER+by+NAME1%2C+NAME2%2C+SURNAM1%2C+Y DRAW+LIMIT+CARNESECCHI

1: Image 1 https://oscar.sca.org/cImages/48/2016-10-24/05-01-06_Luca_di_Luca.jpg

SFPP for stooping posture

In Commentary:

Michael Gerard Curtememoire--

At http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=16599, Istvan Wreath declared: "a mini which is X high should be viewed from a distance of 20*X" in the same units." When I view the 2" display on my screen at about double arm's length, ~40", the jesses are just about identifiable, but even at a single arm's length the bells are so only if I expect them.

However, the same complaint could be made of many of the belled and jessed falcons registered without comment in this illuminated OSCAR era, so the emblazon should be similarly registerable.

Daniel the Broc--

No conflicts seen. The jesses are identifiable to me, and they're more or less expected on a hawk. I woudln't expect them to count for a DC either way


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22: Nasıra bint Ịvaz - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Client requests authenticity for Turkish/Ottoman.

Nasıra is a female given name found in "Sixteenth-Century Turkish Names" by Ursula Georges (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/ottoman/feminine.html). The i in Nasıra should be undotted (in case we haven't used the right Da'ud Notation).

bint is the female patronymic marker in Turkish, as seen in Ursula's cited article (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/ottoman/turkishnames.html)

Ịvaz is a male given name found in "Muslim Names from 1455 Istanbul" by Ursula Georges (http://yarntheory.net/ursulageorges/names/muslimNamesIstanbul.html)

In Commentary:

Ursula Georges (Palimpsest)--

The father's name should be İvaz, not Ịvaz (the dot goes above the I).

Tala al-Zahra--

Ursula, if you can get me your source for that name, I can help with the transliteration of Nasira.

Ursula Georges (Palimpsest)--

It's from an English-language article on court documents written in Ottoman Turkish, which used a highly Persian-influenced script. I don't have the original Ottoman text for the given name. I do have a facsimile for the father's name data, though I don't know where in that facsimile it appears. I can post an image if you want to get a sense of just how weird Ottoman Turkish was.


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23: Reichart von Drachenstein - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in December of 2014, via the Middle.

Old Item: Wilhelm Reichart, to be retained as an alternate name.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
No changes.

Submitter has requested his submission be changed from Wilhelm Reichart von Drachenstein to "Reichart von Drachenstein".

The first two elements are grandfathered to the submitter. His name was registered in December 2014.

<von> The particle "von" is used in locative bynames that refer to specific pplace-names, for example "von Köln" meaning "of Cologne" [2/2004 LoAR, R-Atlantia]

Drachenstein - Drachenstein is a place-name formed of the elements Drachen, from draa(c)k or drache (MHG) or drach (Upper Germany), meaning "dragon", ibid, pg 85 header Draa(c)k and -stein meaning a "stone." These types of names, with the element Drachen- in them and various endings, are evidenced in the Academy of Saint Gabriel report # 2924. http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2924.txt Drackenstein appears in Brechenmacher P. 336


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24: Sofonisba Voltera - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Middle LoI of September 28, 2015 as submitted.

Argent, a peacock in his pride proper within a four lobed quadrate cornice sable and in chief two seeblatter gules.


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25: Thomas O Donnabhair - New Name & New Device

Or goutty purpure, three doves rising sable, a chief nebuly purpure.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Thomas is from Withycomb "The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names", s.n. Thomas, dated form is Thomas Beckett (1118-1170)

O Donnabhair from Woulfe "Irish Names and Surnames", s.n. O Donnabhair, dated form is Marian O Donnabhair , elected Bishop of Elphin in 1297.


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26: Toirrdhealbhach Déabhrús - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.

Toirrdhealbhach is a variant spelling of a male given name found in the raw data dated to 1569 in "Index of Names in Irish Annals" by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Toirdhealbhach.shtml): Toirrdhealbhach mac Mathghamhna mic Toirrdhealbhaigh Uí Briain

Déabhrús is a header form in Woulfe, with the italicized Anglicized Irish form de Evereux from the time of Elizabeth I or James I under this header. Precedent allows the use of the Gaelic header form as if it were from the same time frame. Sumbitter prefers the accented form of the nameand requests any corrections to be made. Construction according to Appendix A [given + surname]

In Commentary:

Dai Gerdwr at--

Déabhrús is on page 53 of Woulfe (https://archive.org/stream/irishnamessurnam00woul#page/52/mode/2up) and the fadas (accents) would be required, not optional, so the "accented form" is correct.

Ursula Georges (Palimpsest)--

One may always drop accents in an SCA name submission, as long as one is consistent about it (use all of the accents or none of them!)


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27: Úlfrún Biornsdottir - New Name

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Meaning (Meaning - Must be associated with wolf) most important.

Úlfrún is a female name found in GB pg15

Biornsdottir is a later Scandianvian form of the Norse Bjarnardottir (from Geirr Bassi's Bjorn). The SMP s.n. Biorn dates Biorn as well as the genitive Biorns- from 1100 on.


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28: Ursula Mortimer - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in February of 2009, via the Middle.

Old Item: Ursula the Widow, to be released.
Submitter desires a feminine name.

Submitter is changing byname only - Mortimer is found as a surname in FamilySearch.org "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8XM-RQ3 : 24 December 2014), Jesse Mortimer, ; citing Stoke-Mandeville, Buckingham, England, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,966,917. "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8XM-YJ3 : 24 December 2014), Ellen Mortimer, 27 Sep 1590; citing , reference pg 65 # 519; FHL microfilm 1,966,917. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N56H-2ZX : 30 December 2014), Julian Mortimer, Jul 1592; citing WITHERIDGE,DEVON,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 917,556. This is a primary name change with release of old name.

In Commentary:

Jean Yves de Chierebourg--

for completeness of the submission I found this in the DMNES http://dmnes.org/name/Ursa "England

Latin ◑ 1551 Ursula (nom) StMartF p. 57 Early Modern English ◑ 1541 Vrsula StNick-Sf p. 1; 1554 Ursula BarnstapleBap p. 8; "


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29: Valgautr ormstunga - New Name & New Device

Sable, a serpent contourny in annulo vorant of its tail Or estencelly vert

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.

Valgautr - Male Given Name found in Geirr Bassi p. 15

ormstunga - descriptive byname meaning "serpent-tongued" found in Geirr Bassi p. 26 Construction according to Geirr Bassi p. 18-19

Blazon submitted as: Sable, a serpent vorant of its own tail head to chief Or estencelly vert.

POTENTIAL CONFLICT: Sable, an annulet suspended by three chains in pall throughout Or.

In Commentary:

Daniel the Broc--

That [potential conflict] is clear by removal of the secondary chains, and by addition of the teritary estencelly.

The size of the ring itself doesn't actually matter.


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30: Vladimir Grigorovich D'ragoun - New Name & New Device

Per chevron gules and sable, two onion domed towers and a bear rampant Or. An onion domed tower is a period artifact. Evidence for onion domed towers can be found here: http://zagraevsky.com/glavi_engl.htm including primary sources in the form of ima

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for Russia.

Vladimir: From Paul Goldschmidt's Dictionary of Period Russian Names - Section VL-Y, s.n. Vladimir (attested from 1053 through 1600s) URL: http://penheralds.net/heraldry/mirrors/heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/vl-y.html

Grigorovich: From Paul Goldschmidt's Dictionary of Period Russian Names-Section G, s.n. Grigorii: Grigorovich [from Grigor] (Khot Grigorovich). 1215. [Tup 417] URL: http://penheralds.net/heraldry/mirrors/heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/g.html

D'ragoun: From Paul Goldschmidt's Dictionary of Period Russian Names - Section D, s.n. D'ragoun': D'ragoun' (m) -- D'ragoun'. 1189. [Mor 81] URL: http://penheralds.net/heraldry/mirrors/heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/d.html Client would prefer just "D'ragoun", but will also accept "D'ragounov" (second patronymic) if it is necessary for the grammar.

In Commentary:

ffride wlffsdotter--

The source Wickenden points to for D'ragoun is more vague than usual. Moroshkin only says:

"Юг. Сл. 1189 Сравп. Драгунъ"

Which I can guess might be [South Slavic (?) 1189 Sravp. Dragun"].

{https://archive.org/stream/slavianskimenos00morogoog#page/n194/mode/1up)

So other than saying the name almost certainly isn't Russian, I can't add much else. :(

In Commentary: Daniel the Broc--

The link provided seems to show early Onion domes with a very modest bulge that look to be dated to period, including Frauenkirche in Munich, with the domes themselves dated to roughly 1525. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Frauenkirche


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31: Wilhelm von Drachenstein - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in January of 2015, via the Middle.

Old Item: William Alexander Larchier, to be released.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Meaning (William of DragonStone) most important.

William Alexander Larchier This name was registered in January of 2015 (via the Middle).

Wilhelm - Shown as a translation for William as a Male Given Name in "German Names from Nürnberg, 1497" by Sara L. Uckelman known in the SCA as Aryanhwy merch Catmael http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html

<von> The particle "von" is used in locative bynames that refer to specific pplace-names, for example "von Köln" meaning "of Cologne" [2/2004 LoAR, R-Atlantia]

Drachenstein - Drachenstein is a place-name formed of the elements Drachen,from draa(c)k or drache (MHG) or drach (Upper Germany), meaning "dragon", ibid, pg 85 header Draa(c)k and -stein meaning a "stone." These types of names, with the element Drachen- in them and variousendings, are evidenced in the Academy of Saint Gabriel report # 2924. http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2924.txt Drackenstein also appears in Brechenmacher p. 336Sumbitter wishes to change last name to "von Drachenstein" - recommended change of language for first language name to agree with surname.


In Service to the Client, Kingdom, and College,

Baroness Sybella of Dragon's Mark, CDH, CE

Rouge Scarpe Herald

Acanthus Persuivant


OSCAR counts 16 New Names, 4 New Name Changes, 1 New Alternate Name, 15 New Devices and 3 New Badges. These 39 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $156 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Name and 1 Resub Device. These 2 items are not chargeable. There are a total of 41 items submitted on this letter.

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