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Atenveldt LoI dated 2016-10-25


Letter of Intent

25 October 2016, A.S. LI

Unto Andrewe Laurel; Lillia Pelican; Brunissende Wreath; and the commenting Members of the College of Arms,

Greetings from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald and Parhelium Herald for the Kingdom of Atenveldt!

The Atenveldt College of Heralds requests the consideration and registration of the following names and armory with the College of Arms.

This item was on the 01-2017 LoAR

1: Alexandra Starling of Ravenspurn - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name on the Atenveldt LoI of April 20, 2016 as submitted.

Purpure, a chevron inverted of chain conjoined at the point to a lighthouse Or flammant gules.

The original submission was returned by Laurel July 2016 "for having the chevron of chain issuing far too high on the field. Per long standing precedent, it should issue from the sides of the field. On redesign, please keep in mind that some commenters had some trouble identifying the lighthouse, mostly due to the low contrast of the flames on the field."

The client has redrawn and adjusted the chain to be more in keeping with the placement of a chevron inverted.

This item was on the 01-2017 LoAR

2: Cirina Badartai - New Name Change & New Device Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in January of 2003, via Calontir.

Per saltire purpure and argent, in fess two feathers sable and a demi-sun issuant from base Or.

Old Item: Serena the Lavendere, to be retained as an alternate name.
Old Item: Per pale purpure and argent, a butterfly counterchanged., to be retained as a badge.
Submitter desires a feminine name.
No changes.

The name is Mongolian.

Cirina is a female given name found in Mongolian Naming Practices, Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy,

Badartai means "monk, mdendicant." The literal term is badarcila(http://www.linguamongolia.html) but following On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names, Baras-aghur Naran (, it was suggested on Facebook's SCA Heraldry Chat that the appropriate suffix to indicate possessions (a conditiion of being a monk) would be "tai."

This item was on the 01-2017 LoAR

3: Magnus inn hugprúði Ulfsson - New Name & New Device

Or, a boar statant sable and on a chief rayonny gules a tau-rho Or.

The name is Old Norse.

Magnus is a masculine given name found in The Old Norse Name, Geir Bassi Haraldsson, p.13.

Ulfr is a masculine given name, same source, p. 15. Ulfsson is an ON patronymic formed from Ulfr+son according to the patronymic formation p.17, in Geirr Bassi.

To avoid a direct conflict with Magnus Ulfson, registered March 2016, the client has chosen the ON byname inn hugprúði, "stout-hearted," found in Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók, Aryanhwy merch Catmael (, and so "Magnus the stout-hearted, son of Ulfr."

The tau-rho staurogram is one of several christograms, or monogram-like devices used by ancient Christians, to refer to Jesus. However, New Testament scholar Larry Hurtado points out that the staurogram only refers to the crucifixion, unlike others, which mention Jesus' other characteristics. Also, the staurogram is visual -- the tau-rho combinations create images of Jesus on the cross, making the staurogram the earliest Christian images of Jesus crucified. It is created out of the Greek letters tau and rho: "In Greek, the language of the early church, the capital tau, or T, looks pretty much like our T. The capital rho, or R, however, is written like our P. If you superimpose the two letters, it looks something like this." (

Michael Gerard Curtememoire comments further: "The Bible History Daily site -- which looks to be itself a wholly reliable source -- lists and links to exactly one source at its parent site: "The Staurogram: Earliest Depiction of Jesus' Crucifixion" in the March/April 2013 issue of Biblical Archaeology Review, showing the same papyrus. The body of that article is unfortunately behind a membership wall, but a discussion without photographs by the same author, arguing that the tau-rho cross or staurogram is earlier than the 4th or 5th century based on the evidence of early papyri is available at a.pdf;sequence=1. Since we know medieval scholars saw ancient papryi, this is a small step toward the target Coblaith Muimnech correctly sets, "a period form of a symbol used in the Middle Ages or Renaissance".

"More reliably known to medieval people are ancient coins. shows a 6th century solidus with a staurogram-topped staff. More ancient-looking copies of that coin are found elsewhere on the Net, e.g. the first image below from which is conveniently more readable than Wikipedia's. A tau-rho cross much closer to the submission's is found on a coin of the 4th-c. Arcadius, the second image here, from t.aspx

"My third image shows another one on a staff, perhaps representing a labarum, with the rho curled as in the submission, on an ancient coin otherwise unidentified at To quickly find it and similar images there, page-search for various Greek coins. (I'm sure a specialist numismatist could get a better source than this, but Google image search is convinced this is Victoria's 1845 gold sovereign.)

"The rho was also commonly curled in contemporary chi-rhos (a different but often confused monogram of Christ), like three of Magnentius's coins at (one is the fourth image here). More relevantly, the staurogram is combined with the chi-rho in an 11th century sculpture in the St-Denis St- Nicholas church, Tramezaïgues, France, shown below as my fifth image from a stock-photo site, zagues-60381472.html, seen also at with a better caption.

"A tau-rho cross combined with alpha and omega is also found in the catacombs according to, and in the baptistery of the 4th-c. church of San Giovanni in Fonte, seen at (page-search for battistero).

"Given all this bracketing, I am morally certain that exactly the charge here can either be found in period or at minimum could have been created in period. Moreover, I've seen it modernly in Roman Catholic use, often looking like the image (not shown here) at"

See for associated photographs.

Many thanks to Michael for his exhaustive investigation!

This item was on the 01-2017 LoAR

4: Riane Goch - New Device Change

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Gules, on a plate a dragon's head erased sable impaled on a sword gules.

Old Item: Per saltire argent and gules, in chief two chevronels couped and in base a pair of scissors sable., to be released.

The name was registered December 2014.

If this is blazoned as an impaled head, there are only three layers to the design (field + plate + tertiary charge). If is is blazoned otherwise, there is a problem with excessive layering (Gules,on a plate a sword gules surmounted by a dragon's head erased sable.), with the dragon head becoming a quarternary charge.

There are 1 New Name, 1 New Name Change, 1 New Device, 2 New Device Changes. These 5 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $ 20 for them. There is 1 Device Resubmission.. This is not chargeable. There are a total of 6 items submitted on this letter.

I was assisted in the preparation of this Letter of Intent by Commentary was provided by Coblaith Muimnech and Michael Gerard Curtememoire.

Thank you to those who have provided your wisdom and patience, your expertise and your willingness to share it.

Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy

c/o Linda Miku

2527 East 3rd Street; Tucson AZ 85716

OSCAR counts 1 New Name, 1 New Name Change, 1 New Device and 2 New Device Changes. These 5 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $20 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Device. This item is not chargeable. There are a total of 6 items submitted on this letter.

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