This item was on the 01-2017 LoAR
5: Meleshka Vidarovaia - New Name & New Device
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Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound (Meleshka or something similar for personal name; wife of Víðarr) most important.
Meaning (Meleshka or something similar for personal name; wife of Víðarr) most important.
Reworking of submission on last month's ILoI based on commentary.
Meleshka - plausible feminine diminutive of plausible feminine form of saint's name Melentii ("care" http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/ma.html )
● Meleshka Mikiforov syn Kortev 1594, dim. masc. given name, Wickenden, s.n. Melentii.
● Melentii is St. Mele tii per A Russian Church Slavonic Kanonnik (1331 1332) by A.H. van den Baar, known in the west as St. Meletius of Antioch, d. 381
( http://oca.org/saints/lives/2015/02/12/100505-st-meletius-the-archbishop of-antioch ), so his name would have entered the Rus naming pool with their conversion to Christianity (officially 10th c.) even though the earliest forms in Wickenden date to the 1400s.
● Melentiia is a plausible feminine version of Melentii, eg. Afanasii/Afanasiia, Evpatii/Evpatiia, Feodosii/Feodosiia, Ilarii/Ilariia, etc. all from Wickenden's 3rd Edition - http://sofyalarus.wikispaces.com/Masculine-Feminine+Name+Pairs
● Meleshka is a plausible period feminine diminutive of Melentiia/Melentiia because:
o the -a ending makes it grammatically feminine,
o other period Russian feminine names end in -shka: Kashka 825, s.n. Kasha; Lishka 1437, s.n. Liska;
Teshka 850; Zbyshka 1134, s.n. Zbiska (all Wickenden).
o Meleshka/Melishka survives as a modern Russian feminine name:
o Мелешка Халилова (Meleshka Khalilova) - http://vk.com/m.khailova
o Мелишка Савелева (Melishka Savelyeva) - http://vk.com/id204054155
o Мелишка Зеленько (Melishka Zelen'ko) - http://vk.com/id233933419
o Мелишка Томлинсон (Melishka Tomlinson) - https://www.facebook.com/meliwko
Vidarovaia - feminine patronymic of plausible Russified Norse name Víðarr.
● Víðarr - 1068-1148, Geir-Bassi
● Vidararia - standard feminine patronymic of plausible Russianized form of Víðarr based on Norse names from 10th century Rus treaties: http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/VarangianNames.shtml#TreatyNames
http://sofyalarus.wikispaces.com/x--Swedish-Russian%20Interactions 944/945%20Treaty (which shows Russian-style patronymics formed from Norse names)
o Vithfastr & Vifastr & Vigfastr, -> Vuefast (so v ->v)
o Sigbiorn -> Shikhbern?, Libbi & Lik(n)biorn, - Libiar (so i -> i)
o Guthi, - Gudov (so th -> d)
o Kari, - Kary (so r -> r)
o Grimr, - Grim ( and Russian doesn't do double letters, so drop the final r)
This leaves us with Vidar, to which we add the -aia possessive feminine suffix, as described in Paul Goldschmidt's Dictionary of Russian Names - Grammar, under "Descriptive and Possessive bynames", as found at http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/zgrammar.html
Name was corrected in Kingdom commentary to the more likely Vidarovaia and confirmed by the client:
Song Zidie (Skraeling Althing) at 2016-09-29 14:19:56
It's tenuous, but if a transcribed name is treated as a name in that native language, then that could work. Otherwise, there is still too much of a gap.
As for the -skaia/-aia ending, Wickenden says that this is formed by taking the patronymic form of a name, and then adding the ending, giving the example "Tret'iakovskaia zhena Sapozhnika", which is "Tret'iak's wife Sapozhnika", and some others which all have some sort of relationship designator in it. If we accept that "Vidar" is the Russanised form (which seems reasonable), then the whole name should be something like "Meleshka Vidarovskaia/Vidarovaia/Vidarevskaia/Vidarevaia zhena".
ffride wlffsdotter at 2016-09-30 18:29:21
Agree with Zidie -- the -aia ending comes after an -ov-.
So, assuming a transcribed name is treated as Russian, you'd expect to see Vidarovaia.
(Vidar -> Vidarov because r is a hard consonant.)
Dietrich von Sachsen at 2016-10-01 22:03:52
The inclusion of the "-ov" wasn't terribly clear to me or the client when we redid it. I've spoken with her, and she's said she's alright with Vidarovaia.
No changes to last month's item - resubbed only because associated name was resubmitted.