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East LoI dated 2015-10-31

Unto Andrewe Laurel, Lillia Pellycan and Brunissende Couronne, from Yehuda Blue Tyger, greetings!

It is the intent of the College of Heralds of the East Kingdom to register the following items. Unless otherwise noted, the submitter has no desire for authenticity and allows any changes.

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1: Aildreda de Tamworthe - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2006, via the East

(Fieldless) An estoile azure


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2: Andrea Caitlin MacIntire - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 1987, via the East

Per chevron azure and gules, a chevron rompu between two quatrefoils pierced and a fireball argent

This device was originally submitted in 1987, with the name. The submission was either returned by Kingdom or lost. As far as we can tell it was never submitted to Laurel and is therefore new at this level regardless of prior history at Kingdom level.


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3: Ástríðr Elfvensdottir - New Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Ãstríðr Elfvensdottir in April of 2013, via the East.

(Fieldless) A hedgehog rampant Or maintaining a needle sable

The name was registered as Ástríðr Elfvensdottir, but OSCAR seems to have difficulties with capital A with an acute accent. Istvan is aware of the issue.


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4: Aveline d'Amiens - New Name & New Device

Aveline d'Amiens

Per fess embattled argent and azure, in chief in fess three rats rampant sable

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

Aveline is a given name found on page 6 of "Names in the 1292 Census of Paris," by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/1292paris.pdf).

d'Amiens is a byname found in the same document on pg 53.


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5: Conall Ó Suibhne - New Device Change

OSCAR finds the name on the East LoI of October 06, 2014 as submitted.

Or, a wolfhound statant between three trefoils vert

Old Item: Per bend embattled argent and vert, two talbots passant contourny counterchanged, to be released.


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6: Eckhart Wurm - New Name & New Device

Per pale embattled Or and gules, a rooster close to sinister with one leg raised gules and a dragon rampant Or, a chief counterchanged.

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Meaning (Meaning of the) most important.

Eckhart is found in "German Names from Nürnberg, 1497" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html)

Wurm is found in Bahlow, p. 565 s.n. Wurm. The dated form is "(Heinrich Wurm, squire, Bretten 1296, his coat of arms shows a dragon)"

We believe this to be clear of Eckehard Thurn, registered in 7/2003, with changes from W- to Th- and from -n to -m.

Kingdom commenters were concerned about the anatomy of the rooster - whether its leg could be located where it is, and its missing wings. We believe the rooster to be identifiable and are therefore forwarding it.


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7: Edwarde Midnight - New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister gules and argent, a tower Or and a four leaf clover vert

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Spelling (unspecified) most important.

Edwarde is a male given name found in "English Given Names from 16th and Early 17th C Marriage Records" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael dated between 1564 and 1615. (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/parishes/edwarde.html)

Midnyght is a surname found in R&W s.n. Midnight dated to 1327. As the i/y swap is well established in English, the documented spelling supports the submitted Midnight.


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8: Eirný Bergsdóttir - New Name & New Device

Per bend purpure and argent, an Elder Futhark rune berkana and a mountain issuant from base counterchanged

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Language (Old Norse) most important.
Culture (Old Norse) most important.

Eirný is a female given name found in Geirr Bassi, The Old Norse Name at p. 9.

Bergsdóttir is a patronymic byname based on the male given name Bergr found at p. 8 of Geirr Bassi. The byname was formed based on the rules found at p. 17 of Geirr Bassi.


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9: Elaine Howys of Morningthorpe - New Request for Name Reconsideration & New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the East LoI of November 30, 2010 as submitted.

Or, a chevron sable platy between three jerkins gules, a chief sable platy.

No changes.
Client requests authenticity for unspecified.
Spelling (unspecified) most important.

The name was submitted as Elaine Howys of Morningthorpe in 2/11; at the time she said she would prefer the name Eliane. It was registered as Eliane. She requests that the name be returned to the originally-submitted Elaine.

Because the submitter has requested authenticity for an unspecified place and time, we have documented all of the elements (even the ones grandfathered to the submitter) as late period English.

Elaine is found in Family Search Historical Records:

Elaine Ferris; Female; Marriage; 15 May 1552; Alstone, Worcester, England; Batch: M04768-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKSW-QWR)
Elaine Wheatley Or Waker; Female; Christening; 08 Nov 1573; AUCKLAND SAINT ANDREW, DURHAM, ENGLAND; Batch: P00021-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NB31-T94)

Howys is a surname found in Hitching & Hitching, dated to 1601, and in the Family Search Historical Records:

John Howys; Male; Marriage; 04 Sep 1559; Rye, Sussex, England; Batch: M14836-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK9C-VQ2)

Alys Howys; Female; Burial; 27 Jan 1572; St. Modwen, Burton Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England; Batch: B05314-7 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZGM-8WY)

Morningthorpe is a parish in South Norfolk, according to Ekwall, s.n. Thorpe. The submitted spelling is extrapolated from <Moryngthorpe>, found in Transactions of the Royal Historical Society (http://books.google.com/books?id=9_5aAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA195, p. 195), dated 1517. The i/y switch is unremarkable, so the submitted spelling was considered to be plausible for late period England.


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10: Elaine Howys of Morningthorpe - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name on the East LoI of November 30, 2010 as submitted.

(Fieldless) A jerkin per pale gules and Or


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11: Elizabeth Vynehorn - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2012, via the East

Argent, a quatrefoil per bend gules and azure.


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12: Eva von Köln - New Name & New Device

Argent, a cross sable, two oak leaves and two otters combatant vert, and overall a heart gules.

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for Fifteenth Century Germany.
Language (Fifteenth Century Germany) most important.
Culture (Fifteenth Century Germany) most important.

Eva is a female given name found 14 times in German Names from 1495 by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/german1495.html)

Köln is found as an unmarked locative byname in the FamilySearch Historical Records: Hanß Köln, married 24 May 1636, Germany, Batch M91992-1 ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCKL-8ZJ).

The submitter prefers the form marked by "von". Locative bynames marked with "von" are supported by Appendix A of SENA.


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13: Francesco Gaetano Greco d'Edessa - Resub Badge

OSCAR thinks the name is registered as Francesco Gaetano Greco d'Edessa in June of 2004, via the East.

Per fess gules and vert, a cross and in canton a pearled coronet Or.

The submitter's previous badge, (Fieldless) A mitre Or banded argent issuant from a coronet Or, was returned on the Feb 2014 LoAR, R-East, for presumptuous use of a bishop's miter.

The submitter's resubmitted badge, (Fieldless) On a mantle per chevron ployé azure and Or, in chief a pearled coronet argent, was returned on the Nov 2014 East Kingdom LoD for multiple reasons:

Commenters were nearly unanimous in their opinion that the mantle was not properly divided per chevron ployé. More importantly, the commenters were also nearly unanimous in the opinion that the tertiary coronet was not identifiable. Based on its location on the mantle, the coronet appears to be a cloak clasp rather than a distinct charge. Without the coronet, this badge conflicts with the East's badge for the Order of the Golden Mantle: (Fieldless) A mantle Or. There is a single DC, for comparing a fieldless design to any other design. Since the line of division of the mantle is drawn incorrectly, this charge is less than half azure and is therefore not granted a DC when compared to one that is entirely Or. Therefore, this badge must be returned.

This is a complete redesign.

The submitter was made a court baron on 4/12/2008 and is thus entitled to the display of a coronet. See http://op.eastkingdom.org/Alpha/Prec_f.htm sn Francesco Gaetano Greco d'Edessa (called Bishop)

The Administrative Handbook allows individuals six pieces of armory. The submitter currently has five items registered, this will be the sixth.


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14: Gerhard Stormeclocke - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2013, via the East

(Fieldless) On a tower sable, a lightning bolt Or.

The use of a lightning bolt outside a thunderbolt is an SFPP.


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15: Giana di Nicholò da Firenze - New Name & New Device

Vert, on a pile indented argent an owl's head cabossed sable

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Sound (unspecified) most important.

Appendix A has the pattern given name + marked patronymic (as di B) + locative as a pattern for Italian.

Giana appears in "Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427" by Arval Benicoeur (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/catasto/) with one example in the data.

Nicholò is a male given name found in "15th & 16th Century Names from Trieste" by Maridonna Benvenuti (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/maridonna/trieste.html) with three examples. It appears with the accent grave over the final 'o' in the article as a documentary form.

da Firenze is a locative byname meaning 'from Florence' found in "Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names" by Arval Benicoeur (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/venice14sur.html#table).


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16: Gunnarr askasmiðr Óláfsson - New Name & New Device

Sable, in saltire a rapier inverted argent and a guitar Or, in chief a death's head argent

Submitter desires a masculine name.
Sound (Gunnarr most important) most important.

Gunnarr is a male give name found in Geirr Bassi, The Old Norse Name at p. 10.

askasmiðr is an Old Norse descriptive byname meaning "shipwright" found in Geirr Bassi at p. 19.

Óláfsson is a patronymic byname based on the male given name Óláfr found in Geirr Bassi at p. 13. The patronymic was constructed according to Geirr Bassi p. 17.

According to the online Pic Dic, the guitar is depicted in Morlaye's Premier Livre de Chansons en tabulature de guiterne, 1552 [Grove 10:554].


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17: Hans Ferdinand Engel - New Name & New Device

Quarterly gules and azure, a sword inverted winged argent piercing a harp Or

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Language (German) most important.
Culture (German) most important.

Hans is a given name in "German Names from Nürnberg, 1497" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html). Hans in that spelling has 155 occurrences from Nurnberg, 1016 occurrences from surrounding cities.

Ferdinand is found as a given name in the Family Search Historical Records

Ferdinand Keiser, Male, Death Date 25 Jul 1564, Sindelfingen, Württemberg, Germany, Batch # B00429-2 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWLQ-Z2D)

Engel is found as a family name in the Family Search Historical Records

Conrad Engel, Male, Death Date 17 Sep 1581, Sindelfingen, Württemberg, Germany Batch B00429-2 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWLQ-D4D)
Engel is also found as a surname in Aryanhwy merch Catmael's "German Names from Nürnberg, 1497" (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/surnamesnurna-m.html).

SENA Appendix A indicates that double given names are acceptable in German.


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18: Hasanah bint al-Khalil ibn Habib - New Name & New Device

Erminois, an elephant's head cabossed gules, a chief sable

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.

All elements are found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/arabic-naming2.htm)

Hasanah is a female ism or given name.

bint B is the Arabic pattern for "daughter of B," found in Appendix A.

al-Khalil is a cognomen that also was used as a male given name, per the above article.

ibn B is the Arabic pattern for "son of B," found in Appendix A.

Habib is a male ism or given name in the above article.

An example of a feminine name with a two generation nasab, or patronymic byname, is found in Da'ud's article: Umamah bint Hamdun ibn Isma'il.


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19: Jadwiga Piwowarka Miodunka - Resub Name & New Device

Gyronny argent and gules, in pale a demi-weasel sable issuant from a mug purpure

Submitter desires a feminine name.

This is a resubmission of the name, Jadwiga Piwowarka Miodostnyka, which was returned on the March 2014 LoAR (R-East) because the second byname Miodostynka was not documented.

She would prefer for the last byname "miodosynia" (which she believes to be a word meaning "satiated/drunk on honey") or "miodosytnia" (a modern word meaning "mead-brewery") or a byname derived from such a term.

She will reluctantly accept the byname documented below (including feminization if necessary).

Jadwiga is a feminine given name found in "Polish Feminine Given Names, 1600-1650," by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/polish/polishfem.html) dated to 1612.

Piwowarka is the feminized form of the byname Piwowar, a header in Abramovicz et al., Slownik Historycznych Nazw Osobowych Bialostocczyzny Vol 2. The masculine form isdated 1558. The dated instance of the fem. form is dated 1662, but it can also be constructed. The -ka feminization is seen in the names Borziczka wdowa 1551 (s.n. Borzyk), Ragina Brodzianka 1558 (s.n. Broda), Czabayka 1577 (s.n. Czabaj), Nieczayka wdowa 1551 (s.n. Nieczaj), etc.

Miodunka is found as a masculine byname in Abramovicz (as above). Pawel Miodunka is dated to 1560-63. We ask for assistance in determining if this form is appropriate for a woman as well. She would prefer not to have a form ending in -owna or -owa if possible.


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20: Janna von Guggisberg - New Name & New Device

Gules, on a bend Or two cats courant sable

Janna is the submitter's legal given name; the rest of her name does not resemble the submitted name. Attested by Juliana Siren and Beatrice Isendun.

The byname von Guggisberg is derived from a period town; the town website (http://www.gemeinde-guggisberg.ch/Seite19.html) says that it appears as "Cucansperc" in 1148. She would prefer a late period form of that name that is relatively similar to the modern form if it can be identified. If not, she would prefer the lingua anglica form of Guggisberg. For the modern form of the name, see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guggisberg.

During Kingdom commentary Godefroy de Lisieues identified the following possible documentation for the byname:

(http://www.kochersperger-genealogie.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47&Itemid=1&lang =en) is a lease agreement from 1366 that, alas, is too small to be read.

The Bern Library has a letter (regarding the sale of a house?) from an Ulrich Guggisberg dated to 1524. (http://katalog.burgerbib.ch/detail.aspx?ID=87620).

We are forwarding the name for further commentary.


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21: Jaspar van Doorne - New Device

OSCAR finds the name on the East LoI of December 16, 2014 as submitted.

Per pale azure and argent, a chevron cotised and three mullets of eight points counterchanged


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22: Kenric Burn of Northampton - New Device Change

OSCAR is unable to find the name, either registered or submitted.

Per pale and chevronelly Or and sable

Old Item: Per chevron argent and gules, three increscents counterchanged., to be retained as a badge.

There is a conflict with the device of Gustaf Rikardsson (June 2014, Lochac): Per pale Or and sable, three chevronels counterchanged and in canton a hand issuant from a wing fesswise maintaining a sword reversed fesswise sable. A Letter of Permission to Conflict is attached.

Correction to Device (2015-Oct-31 18:10:34): NOTE: Kenric's name change happened while the PtoC and the device were pending. Kenric Burn of Northampton -- This name, registered in February of 1997 (via the East), was changed to Kenric æt Essexe in July of 2015 (via the East). Kenric Burn of Northampton was retained as an alternate name.


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23: Roland de la Mar - New Name Change & New Device

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in January of 2016, via the East.

Per chevron inverted argent and azure, a phoenix counterchanged.

Old Item: Roland de Endeweard, to be released.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (unspecified) most important.

Roland is grandfathered to the submitter, who registered Roland de Endeweard via the East in Oct. 2007. SENA PN.2.C.2 states that name elements documented via the Grandfather Clause "are treated as neutral in language and time. Such name phrases may be combined with name phrases from a single regional naming group dated to within 500 years of one another."

de la Mar is a byname found in "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/locative.html)


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24: Rosa Linda degli Uccelli - New Name & New Device

Gules, on an owl affronty maintaining in it's talons a rose slipped and leaved argent, a heart gules and in chief a cross bottony and a fleur de lys Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.
Meaning (byname meaning of the birds) most important.

Rosa is found in "A Listing of all Women's Given Names from the Condado Section of the Florence Catasto of 1427" by Juliana de Luna (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/condado/womensalpha.html). It is also found in the Family Search Historical Records for Germany:

Rosa Straub female christened on 15 Oct 1582 in Aufhausen (OA. Geislingen), Württemberg, Germany Batch #C91765-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NCK3-SLZ)
Rosa Sautter female christened on 09 Oct 1582 in Aufhausen (OA. Geislingen), Württemberg, Germany Batch # C91765-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NCK3-SL4)
Rosa Dreschers male christened on 24 Mar 1581 in Beihingen (OA. Ludwigsburg), Württemberg, Germany Batch # C95181-1 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NCS8-CZ9)

Linda is found in the Family Search Historical Records

Linda Losenecker was married on 05 Aug 1599 in Rüderswil, Bern, Switzerland Batch# M00443-5 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FVNF-YXL

degli Uccelli: The family name Ucelli is found in Juliana de Luna's "Masculine Names from Thirteenth Century Pisa" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/pisa/pisa-bynames-alpha.html). The given name Uccellino (note the -cc- and -ll- spelling) is dated to 1347 in Aryanhwy merch Catmael's "Italian Given Names from the Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/tratte/uccellino.html). Given these citations, this spelling should be reasonable.

Family names with degli can be found for example in Juliana de Luna's "Names in 15th Century Florence and herDominions: the Condado" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/condado/). The byname Uccellini is also found in that article, so it should be compatible throughout.

The mix of German and Italian is allowed under Appendix C of SENA.


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25: Rose Steel - New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister gules and argent, a rose slipped and leaved argent and a domestic cat rampant, a bordure sable semy of acorns argent.

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Consulting Herald: Conall an Doire

Rose is a female given name found in "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" by Talan Gwynek (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyHZ.html) s.n. Rose dated to 1325, among others.

Steel is a byname found in R&W s.n. Steel with the submitted spelling dated to 1327.


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26: Roseia Posey - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2010, via the East

Argent, a lighthouse gules between three fountains proper


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27: Sarah Gerlyn Easthope - New Name & New Device

Per bend sinister azure and gules two cats sejant contourny Or each maintaining in their sinister paw a heart argent, a bordure Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Language (English) most important.
Culture (English) most important.

This follows a pattern of late period English given name and double byname per SENA Appendix A. All elements can be found in England in the Family Search Historical Records:

Sarah Adam; Female; Burial; 19 Feb 1551; Tydd-St. Mary, Lincoln, England; Batch: B03306-3 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCMW-V3F)

Margery Gerlyn; Female; Marriage; 11 Jul 1608; Saint Mary, Leicester, Leicester, England; Batch: M0116-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V52N-VPJ)

Joan Easthope; Female; Marriage; 29 May 1608; Chetton, Shropshire, England; Batch: M06497-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKC7-D4J)


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28: Sarra atte Brouk - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2012, via the East

(Fieldless) A weaver's shuttle fesswise sable


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29: Simon Caspar Joder - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in January of 2016, via the East.

Old Item: Simon Caspar Joder von Steffisburg, to be released.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
No changes.

Simon Caspar Joder von Steffisburg is previously registered to the submitter in January of 2003 (via the East). This submission only drops the locative, von Steffisburg. All elements of the new name are grandfathered to the submitter.

The January 2003 LoAR notes that Simon Caspar is a double given name and that Joder is an unmarked patronymic byname.


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30: Therion Sean Storie - New Household Name & New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in October of 1992, via the East.

House of the Lemming

Azure, on a saltire argent a lemming salient contourny sable, a bordure Or

Meaning (unspecified) most important.

The name House Lemming was previously returned in the kingdom of AEthelmearc in 2001. At that time, precedent didn't allow the lingua Anglica form for household names. SENA NPN.1.B.3 and NPN.1.C.2.c now permit the use of lingua Anglica substantive elements in household names.

The pattern House of + animal for inn signs is found in "English Sign Names" by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/inn/#Animals).

The OED gives s.v. lemming the 1607 citation "There are certaine little Foure-footed-beastes called Lemmar, or Lemmus, which in tempestuous and rainy weather, do seeme to fall downe from the cloudes." The submitter believes that Lemming is a plausible lingua anglica form.

Commenters and Blue Tyger are uncertain of the identifiability of the lemming. However, as it is not clearly problematic, we are forwarding them for wider commentary.


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31: Ulrich Reinhart - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in January of 2011, via the East

Argent, on a bend sinister between two ships azure three plates


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32: Una inghean Chonain - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in May of 2012, via the East

Quarterly azure and gules, a lily of the valley slipped and leaved argent


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33: William of Wyndhaven - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.
No major changes.
Sound (unspecified) most important.

Submitter did not provide any documentation for this name. Ogress and Diademe were feeling charitable and came up with the following:

William is a male given name found 154 times in "16th Century Gloucestershire Names" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/late16.html)

Windhaven is a Barony in the Kingdom of Northshield; it was registered as Windhaven, Shire of in October of 1982 (via the Middle), and was updated to Windhaven, Barony of in April of 2006 (via Northshield). SENA PN.1.B.2.f states:

f. Branch Name Allowance: Name phrases may be created from the registered forms of SCA branches. Only the exact registered form of the branch name may be used, and they are registered in the lingua Anglica form, 'of Branchname'. Translated forms will not be registered under this allowance, even if it matches the intended origin of the submission or of the branch.

As the Branch Name Allowance only permits the registered spelling with an 'i', assistance in documenting the submitter's requested spelling of Wyndhaven would be appreciated.

During Kingdom commentary, Godefroy de Lisieues provided the following additional documentation:

The OED gives several examples of 'wynd' or 'wynde' being an alternative spelling of 'wind'. (http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/229181). Similarly, Reaney & Wilson gives 'Wynd' 'le Wynde', 'Wyndswift', and 'de Wynd' for Wind, dated to 13th and 14th Centuries. [R&W 495].

This can be used to create a constructed byname under SENA PN.1.B.2.b.2 and the following precedent:

"-haven in constructed English place names. When this element was ruled SCA-compatible as a deuterotheme in English place names, the only examples that had been found to that point appended the element Haven to an already existing place name. Since then, examples have been found of -haven used as a genuine deuterotheme, in Whytehauene 1279 and Whithaven 1535 (Watts s.n. Whitehaven), and Kihavene, Kyhavene c.1170-1316 and Kayhaven 1532 (Watts s.n. Keyhaven)." (May 2008 LoAR, Cover Letter).

There is also 'Newehaven' dated to 1587 in England and 1505 in Scotland [Mills] p. 345 as Newhaven, Broad Haven ('Brode Hauen' 1578) [Mills] p. 79, and Little Haven ('the Lytel hauen', also 1578) [Mills] p. 302.

We believe this is sufficient to register the byname as submitted.


In Service,

Yehuda ben Moshe

Blue Tyger Herald


OSCAR counts 14 New Names, 2 New Name Changes, 1 New Household Name, 21 New Devices, 2 New Device Changes and 7 New Badges. These 47 items are chargeable, Laurel should receive $141 for them. OSCAR counts 1 Resub Name and 1 Resub Badge. These 2 items are not chargeable. OSCAR counts 1 Request for Name Reconsideration. This item may or may not require payment. There are a total of 50 items submitted on this letter.

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