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Middle ILoI dated 2013-01-04

Unto Dragon Herald, Rouge Scarpe and the commenting members of the College of Heralds does Hiordis Escutcheon sends greetings.


Herein are the submissions I have received in the month of December 2012.


All comments are due by February 4, 2013.

1: Brighid Bhreathnach -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2011, via the Middle

Vert, a Saint Brigid's cross and on a chief Or a grapevine vert.

Original submission returned on the November 2011 LoAR via the Middle:

Brighid Bhreathnach. Device. Vert, a cross of Saint Brigid and on a chief Or a grapevine vert.

This device is returned for a redraw, for violating section VII.7.a of the Rules for Submissions which requires that "Elements must be recognizable solely from their appearance." The vine depicted here has leaves that do not match any grapevine that commenters were aware of; a generic vine is an ivy vine, which the leaves here also do not match. Please advise the submitter to redraw with a vine with recognizable leaves of some sort.

There is a step from period practice for the use of a cross of Saint Brigid.

The previous submission can be found here: http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=17865

The leaves have been redrawn more clearly as grape leaves.


2: Caterina de Bruyn -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in September of 2000, via the Middle

Purpure, on a pile argent a tulip purpure leaved vert.

Returned in September 2000:

Catharina de Bruyn. Device. Argent chapé, a tulip purpure slipped and leaved vert.

Conflict with Dai of the Tulips, Argent, a tulip gules slipped and leaved vert. Tulips are like thistles, the slipping and leaving of a tulip makes up more than half the charge; therefore, it is the tincture of the slips and leaves rather than the tincture of the flower that is used when checking conflict. Because the plant portion of the tulip is more significant than the flower, there is not a CD for changing its tincture. Therefore there is only a single CD for the field.


3: Cecily O'Donell -New Name & New Device

Ermine, on a bend vert three ermines statant argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.
No major changes.
Client requests authenticity for Late 16th C Anglicized Irish.
Sound (given name: sound. surname: lang/culture (Angl. Irish)) most important.

<Cecily> "Cecily Fagan alias Darcy, wife of the late George Darcy, 1600" O'Brien, Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents: Women's Names. (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Feminine.shtml)

<O Donell> "Katherine nyne Owen O Donell, 1587; Annor ny Owen O Donell, 1601; Joan cam O Donell, 1599" and others. ibid.

<O'-> "Rose O'Scalle, 1549; Egidia or Giles O'Colledan, 1553; Juane Ny Teige O'Donovane, 1629; Katherine O'Shiridan, 1552-3; Margarete O'Connor, 1558" and others. ibid.


4: Elina of Beckenham -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in August of 1991, via Trimaris

Gules, a gryphon sergeant Or on a dexter claw a raven rising sable in sinister claw a rose Or slipped and leaved vert.

Most recent previous submission returned on the October 2012 LoAR via the Middle. http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=24246

Elina of Beckenham. Device. Gules, a gryphon segreant queue-forchy Or maintaining a raven displayed sable and a garden rose Or slipped and leaved vert.

This device is returned for multiple problems.

There is a step from period practice for the use of a bird other than an eagle in the displayed posture. There is another step from period practice for the use of a natural rose in profile, which is the depiction of the rose seen on the black and white emblazon on the Letter of Intent. Armory may not have more than one step from period practice, according to section VII of the Rules for Submissions, and section A2B4 of the Standards for Evaluation.

This device is also returned because the black and white and color emblazons on the Letter of Intent do not match. The Admin Handbook requires that both emblazons be an accurate representation of the submission. While some allowances for variation may be made as long as the color version is sufficient for style and conflict checking, such as the difference between the gryphon's single tail on the black and white emblazon and double tail on the color emblazon, the rose on the color emblazon here is the long-banned garden rosebud, which is itself cause for return.

There is no problem with the black raven on a red field, as maintained charges are allowed to break the rule of contrast so long as there is some contrast. We suggest the submitter draw the rose as a slipped heraldic rose.

The submitter does have a long list of letters of permission to conflict, some of which are no longer needed under the Standards for Evaluation. For ease of future reference and resubmission, we will list the necessary ones below. As noted in her previous return:

Some of these letters of permission to conflict are by no means recent: the one which bears a date is dated November 27, 1995, and some of the others may be older. The College should note that the administrative handbook does not mandate an "expiration date" for letters of permission to conflict, nor does a letter of permission to conflict cease to be valid if a submission is returned at Laurel. Yet permission to conflict may be rescinded by the owner of the conflicting armory at any time before the submission is registered. Any person wishing to rescind permission to conflict for a submission which has not yet been registered must write to Laurel and the submitting kingdom with an explicit letter to rescind any previously written letter of permission to conflict. [Elina of Beckenham, R-West, September 2002 LoAR]

As also noted in that return, minor differences with the maintained charges do not invalidate the letters.

The submitter has permission to conflict with the device of Degary Golafre of Pembroke, Quarterly sable and gules, a griffin segreant coward maintaining in its dexter talon a Celtic cross and in its sinister talon a sword inverted Or, the device of Gavin Flandre, Gules, a griffin segreant checky argent and azure, the device of Kiera Loch Beldragon, Gules, a griffin segreant maintaining a harp Or, a chief urdy erminois, the device of Morgan ap Siarl, Gules, a griffin segreant ermine maintaining in its dexter foreclaw a cross of four lozenges Or, and the device of Nicolette de Coulours, Quarterly purpure and vert, a hippogriff segreant Or.

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/10/12-10lar.html#190

Only one emblazon has been used on these new forms and the garden rosebud/natural rose has been replaced by a slipped and leaved heraldic rose as suggested. This eliminates the reasons for the previous return.

Client includes Permission to Conflict letters listed above in the recent return.


5: Estelle de la Mer -Resub Badge

OSCAR finds the name on the Middle LoI of December 13, 2012 as submitted.

(Fieldless) A sea-mew contourney bendy azure and argent.

Returned on 09/12 LoAR:

Hiordís Ragnars dóttir. Badge. (Fieldless) A sea-mew volant contourny argent marked maintaining in its beak a plummet dependent from a cord sable. (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/09/12-09lar.html#199)

This badge is returned for conflict with the device of Myra Naedlsang, Per bend sinister purpure and vert, a skylark volant to sinister argent, holding in its beak a nettle branch Or. Under both the Rules for Submissions and the Standards for Evaluation, there is a CD/DC for fieldlessness, but no difference granted for the change in maintained charges.


6: Gwyneth verch Ieuan -New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2007, via the Middle

Per chevron embattled sable and azure, in chief three feathers above a fox passants and regardant argent.


7: Jean Yves de Chierebourg -New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: filing name should not be registered for a primary name change. It was, in in May of 2013, via the Middle.

Old Item: Donnchad Camsron mac Rónáin, to be retained as an alternate name.
Submitter desires a masculine name.
Client requests authenticity for unspecified.
Sound (Zhahn Eev deh Chair-berg) most important.

<Jean> "Jean de Chanevière" Catledge. An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris. (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/paris.html#J)

<Yves> "Yves le Breton" Catledge. An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris. (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/paris.html#Y)

<Chierebourg> "A garrison in France" Jehan de Wavrin, "Anciennes et nouvelles chroniques d'Angleterre". Royal MS 14E IV (http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=royal_ms_14_e_iv_f014v)

The above submission has images. To view them, see the URLs below:
#1 https://oscar.sca.org/showimage.php?I=848/2013-01-02/00-59-00_1301_JeanYvesdeChierebourg_Name_docu.jpg


8: Lucien Phelipe de Bordeu -Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in July of 2004, via the Middle

Azure, over a ford an increscent, and on a bordure argent an orle of mullets of four points azure.

Returned on the 07/2004 LoAR:

Lucien Philip de Bordeaux. Device. Azure, an increscent argent and a ford proper within a bordure argent mullety of four points azure.

The charges on the bordure on the emblazon are not identifiable; the meeting could not agree whether they were flowers, crosses, quatrefoils or mullets. In addition, the ford should be drawn smaller and with wavy stripes of even width.


Yours in service,

Hiordis Escutcheon


OSCAR counts 1 Name, 1 Name Change, 6 Devices and 1 Badge. There are a total of 9 items submitted on this letter.

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